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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:46 am 
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It has only been a month of working with the Planner tool and it has been a very frustrating experience! The constraints are a mixed bag of good and bad (mostly bad!) and getting an even distribution of songs has been elusive. Every program director trick-in-the-book has been deployed, however there are many things which still have presented concerns such as:

_songs from same box playing at the same time every day
_plannings (logs) being essentially the same from day-to-day
_contraints being totally ignored (a constraint of 1400+ minutes should mean a song should only play once a day but not according to my RMO!)
_a constraint of anything less than 1400+ minutes ends up with a song playing several times a day (and often at the same time as yesterday and the day before)
_editing the box constraints AND the song constraints has little impact on the results
_boxes may have scores of songs however only a small percentage of songs are scheduled (and often at the same time as yesterday and the day before)
_50+ fill songs are programmed (2 x 24 = 48, so anything more than 48 should mean going at least a whole day before a fill song is heard again...), however only the same ten or fifteen songs are used, and often fall at the same time every day

Please post any tips or tricks which might improve my results thus far!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:55 am 
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Yes, there are numerous problems with the 'pseudo-random' planner - not surprising as most of the rest of the software that radionomy has written/changed has 'issues' as well. Particular issues are with songs disappearing for very long periods or becoming always played. Here are my tips:

- Use several different day templates, with 50 or so boxes in large clocks (mine are each about 8 hours long). This helps in avoiding the same tracks repeating at the same time.
- Keep stuff you want to be repeated a lot in smaller boxes
- Try and add a lot of new songs in the same box on the same day. There appears to be a bug whereby if you add a couple of songs one day and then some the next, the earlier ones may never play (but this is not always the case)
- If your box is not working as you intended delete it and make another one and add all the songs in again. If a song is still ignored upload it again.
- Never edit the track constraints, only the box constraints.
- Check and double-check your constraints, especially if you have the same artist (or song) in different boxes, as sometimes that can have unexpected results.

It's not a perfect system, and requires you to keep watch over it - but hopefully these ideas may be of some use.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:46 am 
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Thank you for the response and the tips! I will put them to good use and hope for great results. Working with the 'day templates' is quite the confusing issue for me - if only there was a YouTube vid to explain how to maximize working with day templates! Maybe such a vid is in your calling @elmbury!

That's a lot of effort required to "outsmart" the system - and time taken away from efforts to GROW the station! Let's hope Radionomy will make note of these issues and the workarounds! It would help make improvements to the RMO and improve the listener experience, while making the job of we "volunteers" much easier!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:14 am 
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elmbury wrote:
Use several different day templates, with 50 or so boxes in large clocks (mine are each about 8 hours long). This helps in avoiding the same tracks repeating at the same time.
It's not a perfect system, and requires you to keep watch over it - but hopefully these ideas may be of some use.


Would you be so kind to attach screen shots which illustrate this tactic?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:30 pm 
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Another trick to try to get a properly randomised playlist is to only play certain songs on certain days. At the moment I have 1000 songs (because I'm only just over 3 months).

I have sorted these songs on track title and put them in three boxes, roughly with 300 songs each:

Box 1 - songs that start A to J
Box 2 - songs that start K to S
Box 3 - songs that start T to Z

I chose track title to sort on because if you sort on band name you end up with all of a band's songs been in the same box. Track name spreads them out nicely. I guess track length might also be an option for sorting.

Then I have 3 clocks - one for each box. In each clock there're also some station idents thrown in and also a smaller box of songs that I am playing n heavy rotation at the moment - ie my favourite songs.

Each of the 3 clocks has its own day template and I alternate these so Monday = A to J, Tuesday = K to S, Wednesday = T to Z and so on over and over.

If you have enough songs you can set box constraints so that a song isn't repeated on any given day (or maybe repeated only twice).

In this way you can be pretty sure that when a track is played it won't be played again for at least 3 days.

One thing I'd love to see is a report tool that shows you how many times each of your files has been played out and what the last play date was for each.

Hope this helps a bit!

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I'm new at this, too. I just put my 980 songs in one music box and put that in one clock. Then I take that one clock and put it in one day template. THEN I drag that day template to the calendar. I'm still working out the details on how to get the ad filler to work though. I had one file uploaded fine and it played fine, but then I tried to change it and now all this r&b and soul music gets piped into my station every half hour instead--not what you want for a heavy metal station. Still feeling my way around here.

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