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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:30 pm 
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Now listen here.

It is NOT acceptable to just put your bloody adverts across an entire region without at least a few months notice.

WE are not making money from your stinking adverts, this is NOT fair, it is NOT acceptable, it is NOT even in your "pact" (what anyone else calls terms and conditions).

Now kindly remove them from UK and German stations for the next six months and write a statement to every station in those regions that you are going to add them in that time.

Right now YOU are causing a loss in listeners.

Let me put this straight... less listeners means less stations... means less income from adverts... means the end of Radionomy... Surely you can understand that, it's obvious business sense that even a headless cockroach can understand!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:26 am 
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I understand your frustration with the addition of ads (I'm in the USA and have had them all along). But that is how Radionomy pays for the licensing, royalties, streaming bandwidth, server space, software development (i.e. the RMO), and support for your station. It is a necessity on this platform. They stated on the forums that they were testing additional countries in Europe with advertisements a few weeks ago. You do have a choice. Accept what Radionomy does on their platform (you agreed to the service use in the Producer's Pact), or you can leave and do things on your own on a different platform than Radionomy.

Nothing is free, and the 2x2mins per hour for advertising is very reasonable. Just consider other commercial stations that stream and count the commercial minutes per hour. I wish I could decide to have ads or not, but that is not an option on the Radionomy platform. I am sure they will be adding other counties yet this year for running advertising.

I suggest you look at the Producer's Pact, section 15 - http://board.radionomy.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=575

"15. RADIONOMY’s Exclusivity Regarding Broadcasting Advertising

RADIONOMY is financed by broadcasting advertising on the Radio Stations. The broadcasting method may be “In stream” (insertion in the Radio Station programming) or “Preroll” (advertising before connection to the Radio Station). RADIONOMY reserves exclusive rights for broadcasting national, international, and multi-regional advertising. Producers may insert strictly local advertising in their Radio Stations for a maximum of 2 minutes per hour in the same screen. For this type of advertising, RADIONOMY shall not be held liable and only the Radio Station Producer shall be held liable for any legal action or complaints. Programming shall be in a specific bin defined by the Radio Manager. Any abuse, broadcasting national, international, or multi-regional advertising shall be justification for immediate exclusion from the platform and the producers shall be held personally liable for the royalties to be paid in all countries covered by RADIONOMY for the current year. RADIONOMY may immediately invoice the producers for the royalties to be paid for the current year. In certain specific cases, Radio Producers may receive income from broadcasting their Radio Station. The details regarding this income program are included in Appendix 1
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:39 am 
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Cheezenub wrote:
I understand your frustration with the addition of ads (I'm in the USA and have had them all along). But that is how Radionomy pays for the licensing, royalties, streaming bandwidth, server space, software development (i.e. the RMO), and support for your station. It is a necessity on this platform. They stated on the forums that they were testing additional countries in Europe with advertisements a few weeks ago. You do have a choice. Accept what Radionomy does on their platform (you agreed to the service use in the Producer's Pact), or you can leave and do things on your own on a different platform than Radionomy.

Nothing is free, and the 2x2mins per hour for advertising is very reasonable. Just consider other commercial stations that stream and count the commercial minutes per hour. I wish I could decide to have ads or not, but that is not an option on the Radionomy platform. I am sure they will be adding other counties yet this year for running advertising.

I suggest you look at the Producer's Pact, section 15 - http://board.radionomy.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=575

"15. RADIONOMY’s Exclusivity Regarding Broadcasting Advertising

RADIONOMY is financed by broadcasting advertising on the Radio Stations. The broadcasting method may be “In stream” (insertion in the Radio Station programming) or “Preroll” (advertising before connection to the Radio Station). RADIONOMY reserves exclusive rights for broadcasting national, international, and multi-regional advertising. Producers may insert strictly local advertising in their Radio Stations for a maximum of 2 minutes per hour in the same screen. For this type of advertising, RADIONOMY shall not be held liable and only the Radio Station Producer shall be held liable for any legal action or complaints. Programming shall be in a specific bin defined by the Radio Manager. Any abuse, broadcasting national, international, or multi-regional advertising shall be justification for immediate exclusion from the platform and the producers shall be held personally liable for the royalties to be paid in all countries covered by RADIONOMY for the current year. RADIONOMY may immediately invoice the producers for the royalties to be paid for the current year. In certain specific cases, Radio Producers may receive income from broadcasting their Radio Station. The details regarding this income program are included in Appendix 1
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you are totally correct, that sadly, adverts are a reality that we have to live with.

however : letting people know (after the fact in the case of the German regions) via a post on this forum is an absurd and inefficient way of communication, a professional business would email each of the producers and let them know in advance when the new ad streaming would take place. A post on this forum gets bumped down, often within minutes and after a day its practically gone completely.

secondly, if ads are going to be introduced, then for heavens sake make sure that the program, you know, actually bloody works, no listener is going to welcome ads if they come with blank space and silence before the ad, if they insert themselves into the middle of a song that is streaming, if they cause the streaming to stop completely and when you as a listener are forced to reboot the page and THEN you get the same ad playing again.

and every time the ad plays, the player freezes on the song BEFORE the ad break, usually for three to 4 songs AFTER the ad break.

finally the ads are so badly put together, (cause no one is BUYING these ad spaces that are supposed to keep Radionomy going) that they sound like they were edited together by a 10 year old using his first audio prog.

ads have to be here, sure but they need to actually work and not disrupt the stream and make us all look stupid which at the moment is all they are doing

and don't get me started on the dumbness of the Pre Roll concept.. the 1st thing a new listener hears is an advert, a badly put together advert at that, yup that's gonna keep me listening :) .....

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:07 am 
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Here in the UK we seem to be getting the same ad for British Gas repeated at least twice during the ad break, and most annoying straight after the first has finished!!! Does that happen in the other countries ?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:59 am 
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I sympathise with the producers of radio stations that have suddenly, and without warning, had intrusive advertising slotted in to their stations every half an hour. I am a listener and not a station owner and I just wanted to let you know how I feel about this. You see, I feel so strongly that I have bothered to register in the Radionomy forum.

I have listened to a few, generally easy listening, genres over the last considerable time. I've enjoyed the uninterrupted content offered by a multitude of talented station producers. Now, this is completely destroyed by advertising every half an hour. It destroys the ambiance; it destroys the mood and it is a pointless bombardment of useless information that I can seek out elsewhere if I need. Sure, there might be a place for advertising but the tide is turning and viewers and listeners are fed up with badly produced adverts. (How about the popularity of PVRs? I never watch live TV - apart from the BBC whom are not supported by advertising - just so that I can roll through the irritating advert breaks - some as long as 7 minutes and that is in the UK. But I digress.)

The sum of it is that there are 10s of thousands of streaming commercial-free radio stations out there of every genre imaginable. Those people really bothered by this change in Radionomy's policy will go elsewhere; I already have. Those not bothered probably won't be reached by the targeting in any event. We listeners have the means to audition every radio or streaming service out there and listeners do do it and will vote with their feet and discard the irritating services and move on. I forecast there will be a decline in listenership and the owners will notice this in the diminution of their listener base, which I am sure is tracked. I suggest that station owners/producers take up the Radionomy suggestion made elsewhere - if you don't like it, you can broadcast elsewhere - what an attitude!!

I would welcome a return to commercials free streaming here but I fear it may never happen. Thanks for reading a viewpoint from a listener.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:07 pm 
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ThunderGord wrote:
Here in the UK we seem to be getting the same ad for British Gas repeated at least twice during the ad break, and most annoying straight after the first has finished!!! Does that happen in the other countries ?


I have no issue with ads, as the revenue for the service needs to be generated from somewhere. However, I do take issue when they are as above, or for jamendo, and the same ads every break. Get the marketing team to at least have a suitable number of ads to flight first, or only do one break an hour initially. We are already sick of hearing about the penguins in the boys room!

The other thing that I am not too happy with, is that we work really hard to get listeners to our stations, to then have Radionomy advertising their app and encouraging our listeners to go listen to other stations.

Maybe I am just being overly sensitive! lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:19 am 
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I can live with the adverts, however I can't deal with adverts that advertise a different station, or pre-roll ads.

Pre-roll ads can be frustrating especially if you keep getting disconnected

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boyercam wrote:
I can live with the adverts, however I can't deal with adverts that advertise a different station, or pre-roll ads.

Pre-roll ads can be frustrating especially if you keep getting disconnected


yup Pre Roll ads make no sense to me at all, the 1st thing a new listener should NOT hear when coming to your station is some sleazy guy trying to sell you something, he has two opportunities every hour to do that anyway :P

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I'd do 5 Minutes of ads every 30 mins just to remove the pre-roll ad

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boyercam wrote:
I'd do 5 Minutes of ads every 30 mins just to remove the pre-roll ad


dont give radionomy ideas!!!! 4 minutes of them telling our listeners to go listen to something else is more than enough :P

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